Yea, the Tea Party was Just a Flash in the Pan

Russ Steele

Do you all remember when our local left was explaining how the power of the Tea Party was fading away to be replaced by the Occupy Movement.  I am sure you remember the pronouncements by Mr Frisch and Mr Enos, that the Tea Party was just a fad.

Well the Tea Party is till flexed it’s mussel in Indiana today:

NBC News has declared Richard Mourdock as the projected winner in the Indiana Senate primary. Mourdock defeated six-term Republican foreign policy elder statesman Sen. Richard Lugar.

Mourdock was supported by the Tea Party organizations all across the state. Not one group, but multiple groups, all working with out central direction. This is the power of the Tea Party, it is a true grass roots organization, where as Occupy is a true astroturf organization. When the Occupy Movement’s money dries up, they will go away.

We are going to see more Tea Party action in the coming weeks. Stay Tuned.

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About Russ Steele
Freelance writer and climate change blogger. Russ spent twenty years in the Air Force as a navigator specializing in electronics warfare and digital systems. After his service he was employed for sixteen years as concept developer for TRW, an aerospace and automotive company, and then was CEO of a non-profit Internet provider for 18 months. Russ's articles have appeared in Comstock's Business, Capitol Journal, Trailer Life, Monitoring Times, and Idaho Magazine.

29 Responses to Yea, the Tea Party was Just a Flash in the Pan

  1. Dena says:

    Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy. From this web page –

    http://www.dickmorris.com/obamas-sneaky-treaties/

    The Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST) has been signed, and the Obama administration — with the aid of RINO Sen. Richard Lugar (Ind.) — will push for its ratification as soon as Lugar’s primary in Indiana is over this year. LOST requires that the United States pay an international body half of its royalties from offshore drilling. The body would then distribute the funds as it sees fit to whichever nations it chooses. The United States would only have one vote out of 160 regarding where the money goes. LOST will also oblige us to hand over our offshore drilling technology to any nation that wants it … for free.

  2. From the Instapundit:

    MOURDOCK VICTORY=TEA PARTY VICTORY: There’s little doubt that tea party support propelled Richard Mourdock to a 20 percentage point victory (60-40) over 30-year incumbent Republican Senator Richard Lugar in the Indiana Republican primary today. As reported by CBS News, “His message was amplified by the Tea Party-aligned FreedomWorks, which held ‘activist training’ sessions and made phone calls on Mourdock’s behalf, and the super PAC Club for Growth, which spent more than $1.4 million on the race. (Lugar’s campaign, which had spent $6.7 million on the race as of April, did significantly outspend Mourdock’s, which had spent $2 million as of April.)” It also demonstrates that money does not always = victory. Money may talk, but the people, as individuals, speak louder. And right now, politically speaking, the Tea Party seems to be a bullhorn, amplifying deep and abiding concerns of the American electorate.

    My emphasis

  3. The Woodstock, Ga.-based Tea Party Patriots reported raising $12.2 million for the year ended May 31, 2011. That vaults them into the ranks of some of the most successful conservative activist groups, including FreedomWorks, the Club for Growth and Americans for Tax Reform.

    Nonprofit organizations’ annual tax returns are lagging indicators, of course, and the political-fundraising landscape has been evolving rapidly. But the Tea Party Patriots’ success underscores the continuing – perhaps even growing – power of the tea party.

  4. stevefrisch says:

    With all due respect Russ, your characterization of my position vis a vis the Occupy movement is a bold faced lie. I have been openly critical of the Occupy movement, it’s tactics, and communications.

    I think you should also be mindful that the Tea Party movement is more likely to be harmed by their purge of Dick Lugar than helped by it. I think Lugar’s statement after released today is devastating to your movement. Plus, it is highly likely that from a tactical standpoint the Tea People may very well have just lost their opportunity to flip the Seante. I am just itching to see Joe Biden up there next session breaking a tie!

    • Dena says:

      We use the name RINO – Republican in name only. You use the name Blue Dog Democrat. In our case, a RINO is a Republican who votes with the Democrats and in your case, a Blue Dog Democrat votes with the Republicans. Both parties have been clearing these creatures from the party because they kill the parties goals. In the end, getting rid of Lugar will not hurt the party and it could help if they get a more conservative Republican replacement.
      I understand what you are saying about Biden but treaties take a 2/3 majority and the the republican house can block laws from that end. The only thing that won’t happen it passing unpopular laws like the budget. Most of Biden’s teeth are already puled and this will just pull another one.

      • How true Dena. California is the best example of the damage the democrats can do when those kids have a hegemonic grip on the rules. Of course lefty people like SteveF love it and if I am recalling correctly, he has never complained about the dems in the Senate or Assembly having the death grip on the place. I do’t think he has ever said “golly, why don’t those democrats in Sacramento compromise with the R’s?” That is why he is viewed a lefty hack. No balance.

        Lugar lost to a elected man who won statewide in Indiana. His opponent will be a Congressman I think. The Congressman is elected in a subset district. The advantage for Murdoch is evident as the state’s voters know him. I would suspect the R’s will pick up enough seats to have a 55-45 edge. It seems the libs like Frisch never get the message about defeat. It is coming and I bet we see a sea-change in grants and loans to phony-baloney non-profits.

      • stevefrisch says:

        Really Todd, are you a shameless and serial misrepresenter of the truth or just memory challenged?

        In the last 2 years here and on other blogs I have supported state pension reform, budget reform at the state level including “pay as you go”–multi-year budgeting–implementing performance review–sunsetting state boards, commissions and agencies–and requiring every new expenditure above $25 million to identify an offsetting cut, and supported CEQA reform. I have supported changing the tax code to create more investment capital for small business, almost all of the proposals of the Simpson-Bowles deficit reduction commission, including cuts to social security and medicare, critiqued the OWS movement, and called for the resignation of Maxine Waters.

        I made exactly the case you say I have never made here: that democrats should compromise with republicans in the Senate and Assembly on pension reform.

        Real policy is actually complicated, requiring study, intellectual capacity and understanding of the issues, to find solutions.

      • SteveF, you are too full of yourself. And quite the bfiber about your positions. You are a typical liberal who tells people one thing to their face and another when their backs are turned. But we would expect nothing less from you with such a faulty recollection ability.

      • stevefrisch says:

        So, I directly show you how I have in fact said. “why don’t these democrats in Sacramento compromise with the Republicans”, and you don’t even have the personal integrity to say, “hey, you’re right, you have said that.” Say a lot about who and what you are my friend.

      • Oh please SteveF. The dems have a hegemonic grip and don’t even need the R’s. The state has been a democrat/socialist dream and you love it. Your position is ridiculous. I am not going to search your bloviating revord for you we are all aware of you liberal/socialist positions. To state the R’s should compromise wjen they have no say is too dumb even for you.

    • Barry Pruett says:

      Lugar’s statement was sourgrapes. The Tea Party will drive the country away from the cliff created by liberals and other who would compromise from their principles.

  5. stevefrisch says:

    Dick Lugar had a 77% rating from the American Conservative Union. Here is his voting record over his career on key bills:

    http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/53292/

    To call Lugar a RINO really highlights what is wrong with the Republican party today– a problem exacerbated by Tea Party activism–unless one is almost 100% in lock step with the conservative orthodoxy they are purged.

    The Senate was designed intentionally to act as a check on the heat of the tumultuous House of Representatives. As it took one a new role with the rise of political parties in the Federal period, the Senate became the place where party politics could be left behind in favor of dignified debate over the key issues of the day, with the protection of 6 year terms and no more than a 1/3 turnover possible in any single election. Because of its “armor” as Robert Caro called it, the Senate could be a place where policy was cooked, tempered, evolved, worked over and tested. The armor gave the Senate the ability to defy Presidents and parties to do what was in the best interest of the country.

    But the Republican party is now enforcing an ideological orthodoxy, one is either with it, or they are dead.

    Consider this story from Reihan Salam, author of the Grand New Party: How the Republicans Can Win the Working Class and Save the American Dream……

    “After Lyndon Johnson’s victory over Barry Goldwater in the 1964 U.S. presidential election, the once-mighty Republican Party was reduced to a regional rump. The Democrats won overwhelming majorities in the House and the Senate, which they used to pass Johnson’s Great Society legislation. Republicans, meanwhile, were at one another’s throats, having endured the most divisive campaign in modern political history. Goldwater had managed to win the Republican presidential nomination over the impassioned opposition of moderate and progressive Republicans, who at the time may well have constituted a majority of the party’s members. Moderates blamed Goldwater’s right-wing views for the defection of millions of Republican voters.

    To rebuild the party, a number of moderate Republican governors banded together to form the Republican Governors Association, designed to serve as a counterweight to the Republican National Committee, which had been captured by Goldwater conservatives. Shortly after the election, the association issued a statement, sponsored by Michigan Governor George Romney and other leading moderates, calling for a more inclusive GOP and criticizing Goldwater’s campaign. Stung by the failure of many moderates to actively support or even formally endorse his candidacy, Goldwater retorted that he needed no lessons in maintaining unity, having urged party members in 1960 to look past philosophical differences and pull together to support Richard Nixon’s presidential candidacy. Goldwater wrote a letter to Romney dripping with contempt: “Now let’s get to 1964 and ask ourselves who it was in the Party who said, in effect, if I can’t have it my way I’m not going to play? One of those men happens to be you.”

    Romney wrote a lengthy reply to Goldwater, warning against European-style polarization. “Dogmatic ideological parties tend to splinter the political and social fabric of a nation,” Romney wrote. Worse, he added, political parties with fixed ideological programs “lead to governmental crises and deadlocks, and stymie the compromises so often necessary to preserve freedom and achieve progress.”

    Ironically, where the father was brave and principled, the son, and the party he now represents in 2012, appears to be weak and vacillating. And the prescience of the elder Romney’s words are striking. We are in the worst period of political gridlock perhaps since the run up to the Civil war.

    I am proud to support many a Blue Dog Democrat–even contribute to a few–and have never supported purging members of the democratic party for what is rapidly becoming the political crime of ideological impurity. I believe that diversity of political thought, and strong rational competing political philosophies, are what make our republic run. I am so dedicated to opposing ideological litmus tests that I am not even a democrat any more–I am a ‘decline to state’ in California, but would be an independent anywhere else.

    Contrary to comment here many independents (or moderates, or iconoclasts within parties, or outliers) have a strong political philosophy. The myth that the middle of the road is the place where people have no values, regularly perpetrated here by our host, is yet another way that bucking the orthodoxy is punished.

    Please Dena, tell me, what Republican can question the orthodoxy perpetrated by the party today? What issue would they do it on?

    Apparently supporting a policy of containment on Iran is against the rules, even though containment has never been considered an end, only a step in a process, that if unsuccessful may lead to military action against Iran–but Murdock defined that as cowardice and appeasement.

    I could name a dozen other examples.

    Ultimately a republican form of government works when the issues of the day can be rationally debated by reasoned leaders who are free to explore a diverse range of thought and options to address the issues of the day. When we purge the reasoned leaders, and believe, as Murdock stated, that, “bi-partisanship is the problem”, we damage our system of government

    In the end there are three people I think you could ask about how this policy is working out for the Republicans–Senators Joe Buck and Sharron Angle, and soon, Senator Donnelly.

    • America is moving “forward” didn’t you hear? The R’s are going to trounce the D’s in November since our present mess of governance is the D’s making. My guess is Murdoch will win 55-45 and the R’s will take the Senate 55-45. We will keep the House and Obama will be out. Taking back America from the usurpers is underway.

    • Dena Wiltsie says:

      Don’t have time for much of a post but the Republican party has lost it’s way. Running a country is not a popularity contest, it’s doing what’s right in the long term for the country regardless of the next election. This simply means follow the constitution, don’t tax the population into the poor house and don’t spend more than you take in. Both parties have been violating these rules for so long that we have forgotten what our government should be. The idea that you can take a persons freedom of choice and give them things in return is a bad idea and in the end will enslave us all.
      If you haven’t, read “The Road to Serfdom”. If you read it correctly, it will scare the living daylights out of you.

    • ggoodknight says:

      Mining Wikipedia for ore… :

      “Senator Lugar has an F rating from the NRA.[39] He has an F rating from Gun Owners of America and a 53% positive rating from the Brady Campaign to Prevent Handgun Violence.”

      “Senator Lugar has a generally liberal stance on immigration, supporting the DREAM Act under the Obama Administration and the McCain-Kennedy Comprehensive Immigration Reform under the Bush Administration both of which died in Congress. Both were described by critics as “amnesty”.”

      “Senator Lugar was the first Republican senator to announce his support for President Barack Obama’s first Supreme Court nominee United States Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Sonia Sotomayor[citation needed] and also voted in favor of his second Supreme Court nominee Solicitor General Elena Kagan.[citation needed]”

      There’s plenty of raw material in there for a Tea Partier to see RINO when looking in Lugar’s direction.

      • stevefrisch says:

        No Gregory, there is plenty there to say whether or not Lugar is in line with the Tea Party philosophy, but not plenty to see if he is line with Republican philosophy. My point is that there needs to be a diversity of ideas within any political party otherwise it ceases to function appropriately and endangers the republic. And Is it your contention that the TP is now the Republican party? If so, I hope they register as a political party and stop pretending the are a non-profit.

        If the standards of the Republican party are now that you must be in lock step with the NRA, can’t deviate on immigration policy–ironically taking the position that GWB took and up until he had to run in a primary against a TP candidate McCain took–and that there is a litmus test for Supreme Court justices, creating a standard higher than advise and consent and breaking the tradition that an executive can nominate and if qualified reasonably expect confirmation, then the Republican party is truly in trouble over the long haul. This mind set of punishing and destroying anyone not in lock step will eventually alienate potential candidates, and the party will be left with dregs like Angle.

        This whole thing is probably moot anyway. The rising tide of the public discontent will cause the party to adjust. My guess is that after this election they will be doing an about face to try to attract Hispanic voters.

      • 55-45 R in the Senate. Hold the House and gain a few seats. Romney beats Obama. Yep, those wascally Republicans are toast. What a hoot!

      • ggoodknight says:

        Steve, the three issues I pulled from the wiki on Lugar has him at odds with the Republican mainstream. Being anti-2nd Amendment, in favor of amnesty for illegal immigrants and an enthusiastic supporter of left-liberal Supreme Court nominees isn’t in tune with even non-TP Republicans.

        “And Is it your contention that the TP is now the Republican party? If so, I hope they register as a political party and stop pretending the are a non-profit.”

        If the TP was the Republican party, they’d already be registered as a political party. And regarding any non-profit TP organization, I’d suspect Democrats are are rare among their employees as Republicans working for the so-called Sierra Business Council.

  6. stevefrisch says:

    “Dogmatic ideological parties tend to splinter the political and social fabric of a nation”–George Romney.

  7. stevefrisch says:

    Got to keep it simple for Todd, who hates long posts, because anything worth saying can be said in one pithy pointed rude sentence.

  8. Barry Pruett says:

    Steve: The Republcian party is becoming more conservative, because the entire population, in general, is becoming more conservative.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71385.html

    “Conservatives continue to make up the largest segment of political views in the country, outnumbering liberals nearly two-to-one, according to a new poll Thursday.

    “The Gallup survey found that 40 percent of Americans consider themselves conservative; 35 percent consider themselves moderate; and 21 percent see themselves as liberal. The figures did not change from 2010.

    “For the third straight year, conservatives outnumbered both moderates and liberals.

    Conservatives began outstripping moderates in 2008, and the percentage of moderates has declined steadily over the past two decades, from 43 percent 1992 to 35 percent in 2011.

    “In fact, both self-identified conservatives and liberals have risen in number since the early 1990s, indicating a growing polarization in American politics.

    “While self-identified conservatives dominate the Republican Party, making up 71 percent, the Democratic Party is more split — 39 percent of Democrats view themselves as liberal, and 38 percent consider themselves moderates.

    “Meanwhile, independents are mostly moderate (41 percent), but skew more toward conservatism (35 percent) than liberalism (20 percent).

    The misnomer here is that Democrats are afraid to say that they are liberal and they really think that their leftist views are mainstream (moderate) while they aren’t

    • Barry Pruett says:

      The polarization is happening due to the precipice which we are approaching. Our gigantic national debt is making the nation decide whether we will continue down the path of ballooning federal government control of our lives and greater national debt or return to the path which made the USA the envy of the world and live within our means.

      People are taking sides, and the adults in the room are winning the debate.

    • stevefrisch says:

      Barry, is it possible that you don’t see the difference between more people identifying with being called conservative, and the party becoming more conservative? If the cultural definition of conservatism suddenly embraced open borders, and Republicans embraced open borders, and more people said they were conservatives, does that mean they are more conservative? Don’t you see the logical fallacy in your position.

      Here are the facts:

      More people support abortion.
      More people support gay marriage.
      More people support regulation for the financial industry.
      More people support equal pay for women.
      More people support granting citizenship for aliens that serve our country or complete secondary education.

      That is not a nation becoming more conservative. That is a nation becoming more ‘liberal’ but a propaganda machine that is effective at defining liberal as evil.

      What is happening is the Republican party is becoming more conservative, but more people are identifying as independents–even if they may be more conservative.

      That is the trap you have set for your beloved party.

      • Dena says:

        You miss a very important point. Other than citizenship, all of the things on your list are not the job of the federal government. While I agree to some degree or another with all but one of the items on on your list, I don’t want the federal government tampering with what is the right of the state or the people but not the right of the federal government.

        What is evil is socialism. The taking from one without their permission to give to another. Some taxes are needed for important functions such as defending the country but to take from somebody to feed a crack habit or allow a woman to have as many children as she wants without a husband is evil. It is no better than taking a gun and stealing from somebody at random. Only in this case, the government will not protect you as they are the one doing the stealing. Those who allow the government to steal have just as much blame because they are allowing the government to do their dirty work so they can pretend their hands are clean.

      • Barry is spot on as is Dena. Your list is hokum. Regarding abortion the country is split 50/50. 32 states now have a law stating homosexuals cannot marry, including California. Conservatives hate the Federal Reserve and the big banks. Most are run by democrats anyway. Conservatives want equal pay for equal work, liberals just want to give the woman a handout we a handup. Conservatives have supported citizenship for immigrants who join and become part of the military (not blanket amnesty as you want). I do and you call me an extremist. What a hoot. I would suggest you are the extremist SteveF because you are so uninformed and such a fibber about the facts.

        American politics is run by a small percentage of people who are the true believers and it has always been that way here and elsewhere. I suggest you go knock on thousands of doors as I did and Barry did to get what the real American thinks. Then when you have gained some real world knowledge, get back here and we can debate without you being embarrassed.

      • ggoodknight says:

        “That is not a nation becoming more conservative. That is a nation becoming more ‘liberal’ but a propaganda machine that is effective at defining liberal as evil.”

        Left-liberal isn’t being portrayed as evil. Just wrong.

        Given the choice, most would approve of keeping government out of abortion completely, neither standing in its way or assuring the government will pay for it on demand as discovered to be a right in Roe v. Wade. And will subsidize it multiple times for those who choose to use it instead of birth control or self control.

        Most people approve of civil unions. “Gay marriage” lost again. Will Dems abandon Charlotte as a result?

        The financial industry is heavily regulated.

        Equal pay for the same work is already in place, and women in the same jobs with the same experience and education have pay equity now, and have for decades. Since women now earn more college degrees, expect them to pull ahead soon. Will the Frischs of the world beg for regulation to fix that?

        Finally, this is a nation of immigrants. Legal ones. Conservatives as a whole generally believe in the fairness of process and that outcomes even out when the rules are enforced without prejudice. Own up to being illegally in the country, leave in an orderly process, then wait your turn to come back would get high conservative approval. So would military service. Managing to get a diploma isn’t i the same league as serving the country in uniform, so no, that won’t pass muster unless one sees the illegal resident as another undocumented Democrat just waiting for amnesty.

        Libertarians believe in open borders and no welfare state, but that isn’t very popular at the moment.

        In short, Steve, more people self identify as conservative than liberal, the tail really has been wagging the dog and the TP types think their brand will change that. Time will tell.

      • Well said Gregory. The reason we a divide in America is well seen in the opinions of liberals like SteveF and others like him. We are a nation of laws not men as has been said countless times yet when it suits the left we become e a nation of “fairness” and emotions. Where good intentions are more important than results and the seriousness of the charge is more important than the actual truth. The left is wrong on many issues. Abortion in my view is a place the government needs to stay out of. The left wants us to stay out of the women’s womb which I agree with but they want me to pay her to remove what is in the womb. I find that position ridiculous. But, if you disagree then you get the treatment Rush Limbaugh received when he pointed out the lefts position.

        If we are a nation of laws SteveF, then how do you justify a person breaking the first one as they cross the border without papers? Shouldn’t we have a say if the person has typhoid or diphtheria? Why do we allow people with whooping cough to gain access tour public schools and infect our children? Please tell us how that is “fair” to the little children of legal or true citizens? No SteveF, your philosophy is based on some twisted sense of emotional instability and is the best example of why America is being ravaged by leftie policies and laws.

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