No Words Necessary (Updated for Ben)

Full report is here: 10 17 11 Final 1 Pager For Jobs Roundtable PDF

About these ads

About Russ Steele
Freelance writer and climate change blogger. Russ spent twenty years in the Air Force as a navigator specializing in electronics warfare and digital systems. After his service he was employed for sixteen years as concept developer for TRW, an aerospace and automotive company, and then was CEO of a non-profit Internet provider for 18 months. Russ's articles have appeared in Comstock's Business, Capitol Journal, Trailer Life, Monitoring Times, and Idaho Magazine.

32 Responses to No Words Necessary (Updated for Ben)

  1. Michael R. Kesti says:

    If the graph showed the actual unemployment rather the the cooked books versions the vertical scale would have to be more than doubled but the president says, “We tried our plan and it worked,” and “The private sector is doing just fine.”

  2. benjaminemery says:

    Russ,
    What I see is unemployment going down on your graph, you might want to pull this post if furthering your agenda is the goal. What Obama predictions didn’t forecast was the fact the republican party would play politics with peoples lives to stall any kind of meaningful recovery. The most obstructive minority party in living history. Here is a article and graph of the filibuster until the 111th congress and the 112th is the worst yet. Republicans should be embarrassed of this record. Law is supposed to pass with a 50% plus one majority but the obstructionist have made that threshold 60 votes to end debate and bring the bill to the floor for a vote, cowardice and pathetic.

    • Russ says:

      Ben,

      The bills have to come to the floor of the Senate before they can be voted on and it clear that Harry Reid is not allow a vote on the jobs bills. If Republican has sent 20 jobs bills to the Senate why have we not seen those bill voted on. You claims of Republican constructionism is bogus. See the Update above, just for you.

      • benjaminemery says:

        Russ,
        Please go find the passed house bills under Pelosi and the list of them that either were filibustered or not brought to the floor. We all know Reid is a gutless and spineless Senate Majority Leader and is a good partisan for the democratic leadership and their puppet masters – large corporate donors and their industries. The number one order from their masters is to keep the electorate divided. It is one of the few things they are competent at doing.

      • Russ says:

        Jobs bill, jobs bill. How many Jobs Bills did Pelosi pass when she had the majority and there was a Democratic majority in the Senate. How many? 0

      • benjaminemery says:

        Russ,
        You’re correct, just another reason to get rid of the republican and democratic party’s. Pure partisanship every two years creates the worst form of government, which is why both parties approval rating is below 20%.

        http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jun/22/nation/la-na-congress-jobs-20120622

        Congress cranks out ‘jobs’ bills, but not many jobs
        June 22, 2012|By Lisa Mascaro, Los Angeles Times

        “With the economy and jobs remaining voters’ top priority, almost every bill in Congress is now declared a “jobs” bill.”

  3. Todd Juvinall says:

    Russ, I think BenE is not getting it. The p[promise from O and the dems was below 8% if we bribes, err, stimuli was spent. Of course it has come down a tad but never to the promised level after a trillion bucks. There BenE, get it now?

  4. benjaminemery says:

    Todd,
    Oh I get it and added a little more information to the equation to explain why the rates aren’t as low as they should be. Stimulus should have had no tax breaks and could have easily been twice as big and the unemployment rate would have been much lower. Read about it here.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/09/opinion/09krugman.html

  5. Arthur M. Day. says:

    Krugman! Now there’s an unimpeachable source!

    • Golly BenE, why the heck didn’t the Krugman loving democrat super majorities in the Senate, House and Oval Office make that happen? We could indebt the country twice as much and have half the unemployment. What a concept.

      Also, BenE, where did all the money go? You did not answer the 5% question for shovel ready. Why?

  6. benjaminemery says:

    Todd,
    Right on cue the Michael Falk character of Columbo comes to life. If you look back at the my original comment you will find out why the democratic majority didn’t get it done. They could have had a 50 plus one majority on tons of legislation that would have helped the economy but they needed 60 votes to end debate and bring the votes to the floor. Here is a book and excerpt that lays it out. To put the legislative obstruction into context lets here what the Senate Minority Leader had to say in 2010 “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president,’ says the Senate Republican leader.
    October 27, 2010

    Not get America out of its recession/ depression, not try to stop the hemorrhaging of job losses and factories but to make sure the sitting President does not get a second term. The republican’s were and are willing to let America fail to win an election, absolutely disgusting.

    Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the U.S. House of Representatives.
    by Robert Draper

    “Attending the dinner were House members Eric Cantor, Jeb Hensarling, Pete Hoekstra, Dan Lungren, Kevin McCarthy, Paul Ryan and Pete Sessions. From the Senate were Tom Coburn, Bob Corker, Jim DeMint, John Ensign and Jon Kyl. Others present were former House Speaker and future – and failed – presidential candidate Newt Gingrich and the Republican strategist Frank Luntz, who organised the dinner and sent out the invitations.”

    “If you act like you’re the minority, you’re going to stay in the minority,” said Keven McCarthy, quoted by Draper. “We’ve gotta challenge them on every single bill and challenge them on every single campaign.”

    http://www.vanityfair.com/online/wolcott/2012/03/The-Conspiracy-to-Commit-Legislative-Constipation

    • BenE, you cannot blame the filibuster for anything to do with the trillion bucks in stimuli money. It passed without one R vote but it passed. The implementation of the money then passed over to the Executive Branch. Who is in charge f that? Oh yeah, Obama. So, it appears your understanding of the process is lacking.

      Also, the democrats held 59 votes in the Senate then and could not pick off one R? Their House numbers were huge too and they passed whatever they wanted. Remember Obamacare? Please, try not to be so ready to give the dems a break as you seem to prefer. They had the world by the tail for two years and look how well they did. Same in California except they have had the power for 42 years now.

      • What,

        The Dems have been in control for 42 year and our unemployments is still over 10, the second highest in the nation. Was that Bush and the Reps fault also.

      • Yep, even though Bush was only twenty in 1968, it was his fault.

      • benjaminemery says:

        Todd,
        What the hell are you talking about? The stimulus bill was weak and watered down to appease the republicans and avoid a filibuster. 59 is not 60 and to end debate you need 60 votes.

        http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=100027453

        SIEGEL: By the way, senator, we always just assume that anything in the Senate requires 60 votes because there’ll be a filibuster threat. Is that right? Does this bill need 60 votes to pass?

        Senator GRASSLEY: Yes.

        SIEGEL: It does.

        Senator GRASSLEY: Yeah.

        The other example you gave was Obamacare. Most Democrats plus 70% of Americans wanted a public option. It was never really an option if the bill was going to pass in the Senate due the threat of filibuster. Again 59 is not 60. Wake up and smell the political reality.

      • BenE, are you unaware the stimuli passed only with democrat votes? It passed and you act shocked. Please tell us where the money went BenE. 900 billion bicks. What would be your share? $3,000? Did it go to “shovel ready projects”? No, it is nowhere to be found. You just can’t fib since we know the truth. One thing about libs is they bloviate too much and never answer the questions we ask.

      • benjaminemery says:

        Russ,
        Unemployment numbers might have something to do with the deregulated banking/ financial sectors tanking the American and much of the world economy, or did CA state democrats do that one too?

      • benjaminemery says:

        Todd,
        Here is the link you need to understand what the stimulus is doing.

        http://www.recovery.gov/Pages/default.aspx

        $16.2 million was invested into Grass Valley/ Nevada City region.

      • Russ says:

        How may long term jobs did that $12.2 did it create in the County and what were the infrastructure improvements?

      • OK BenE, here is a copy/paste from the link you supplied after clicking on California. You tell us how California did with the 33 billion. Most is “grants”. Where do you think that went eh? Were these solar companies shovel ready? You are drinking the koolaid man.

        Top Recipients
        Recipient Funds Awarded
        CALIFORNIA HIGH SPEED RAIL AUTHORITY $2,552,556,231
        TRANSPORTATION, CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF $1,528,977,948
        SUNPOWER CORPORATION $1,357,530,986
        MOJAVE SOLAR LLC $1,124,110,000
        PLANNING AND RESEARCH, GOVERNOR’S OFFICE OF $1,085,718,105

  7. benjaminemery says:

    Here I wrote about it in April 2010

    http://www.benemery.org/1/post/2010/04/letting-america-fail-to-win-an-election.html

    Letting America Fail To Win An Election

    Excerpt
    “As Americans, we all know that Wall St. greed, recklessness and illegal behavior has brought our own and the world economy to its knees. In April 2010, continuing obstructionist partisan behavior, US Senate Minority leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) along with the other 40 Republican Senators sent a letter to Senate Majority leader Harry Reid endorsing Wall St. behavior by rejecting any financial reform that will be proposed by the Democratic majority. On the floor of the Senate, Republicans are making irrelevant talking points written by Frank Luntz, a political consultant and pollster, long before the proposed bill was written. This is typical of the obstructionist Republican minority of the 111th congress who is shattering its own previous record from the 110th with filibusters and holds on any significant legislation or appointments made by the Democratic majority. It has become perfectly clear the minority party is willing to let America to continue its downward spiral in order to win seats in the 2010 election”

  8. Arthur M. Day. says:

    Mr. Emery: You need to buy a copy of Peter Schweizer’s book; ‘Architects of Ruin’ and read it. It will disabuse you of your fondly held “Hate Wall Street” notions and educate you about the massive Democrat/MSM coverup scam.

  9. benjaminemery says:

    Arthur,
    Wall St is a casino that rigged the system assuring profit for them at the risk of their investors. Wealthy individual investors I could care less about because they know the risks involved. Millions of people just like my parents that worked hard their entire lives doing the right thing and saving enough to retire with a comfortable lifestyle. It’s the people who had retirement pensions, mutual bonds, ect… caught up into the mix that I am concerned about. Their working years are over and their retirement nest eggs have been emptied. I cannot even begin to tell you how wrong it is that Wall St/ financial sector was deregulated as much as it was prior to the crash and still today. I know the democratic party is corrupt and we need to at least allow more party’s into the arena or get rid of the current big two due to the absolute corruption that handcuff’s them from representing the people interests over special interests.

  10. Arthur M. Day. says:

    Mr. Emery: You have the Devout Democrat party line down pat, congratulations. I remind you that it is your duty as a citizen of this country to seek out and inform yourself of opposing views. That does not mean to read such views only to convince yourself that you are right and they are wrong. You have to investigate opposing views with respect and an open brain.
    And you need to get into the history of Wall St. de-regulation. Far enough in to find that Pres. Clinton vetoed a Democratic de-reg. bill that was passed over his veto. That was the enabling legislation for the Enron disaster.
    By the way, I have friends who were having a very nice retirement on their income from General Motors stock dividends. B. O. is The One who has them back at work.

    • benjaminemery says:

      Arthur,
      I find it somewhat funny of the label democratic party line. I left the democratic party in the 1990′s because of Clinton and his free trade, pro-banking/ financial sector cheer leading, destructive welfare policies, complete lack of environmental policy, and the bombing campaigns throughout both his administrations. Its called the third way and was established in the Clinton first administration and continued up/ through to the Obama administration. The third way has eliminated what little functionality a two party system had by basically removing an opposition party on economic, defense/ DHS, and financial policies.

      Here is my positions on Financial and Economic reforms that need to happen.

      http://www.benemery.org/financial-market-reform.html

      http://www.benemery.org/economic-reform.html

  11. Michael Anderson says:

    “By the way, I have friends who were having a very nice retirement on their income from General Motors stock dividends. B. O. is The One who has them back at work.”

    And that’s Obama’s fault? Perhaps a little personal responsibility is in order. Your friends would still be having a non-working retirement if they’d had the prescience to buy Toyota bonds instead:

    http://www.toyota-industries.com/ir/stockinfo/stockholderinfo1.html

  12. Arthur M. Day. says:

    Mr. Anderson: I stoutly support every person’s right to make an ass of themselves in public. However, sir, there is such a thing as abusing a privilege

  13. Michael Anderson says:

    Thanks Arthur, you made my night w/ your reply.

    It’s a global market, ya know. Lots of Americans make money from Toyota’s largess. Think differently.

    And tell your friends to gamble more safely next time (-;

  14. Toyota largesse, hmmm.

  15. Arthur M. Day. says:

    Thanks, Mr Andersdon, it’s ugly but educational to see that compassion bankruptcy accompanies intellectual and moral bankruptcy.

  16. Arthur M. Day. says:

    Excuse me, misspelling your name was unintentional.

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s

Follow

Get every new post delivered to your Inbox.

%d bloggers like this: