Agenda 21 Comes a Creeping (Update)

Chuck Shea writes:

Just a quick note to let you know that the Supervisors elected to withdraw the MOA after the strong attendance we had stand and speak at the BOS today.

It was a good presentation and after the Supervisors agreed that the MOA was not in the best interests of the People of Nevada County.. 

To all of you that attended….. THANKS!!!!!

Proof that “we the people” can control our destiny when we are willing to stand up and be heard!

Russ Steele

If the citizens of the United States really read Agenda 21, they would say it could never happen an a free county like America. We would not be willing to give up our freedom to a collective, to regional organizations, to non-government organizations that are not accountable to our elected leaders.

Most Agenda 21 promoters recognize this very fact, thus they hide the agenda in little changes, incremental adjustments to our laws and create non-government agencies to implement those changes with MOAs.

Some day historians will sifting through the ashes of what was once the Free West and wonder why did these free people give up their freedom to Agenda 21 organizations. Organizations that our lefty friends claimed were never there. Agenda 21 is not there is flaming red colors, it is hidden in MOAs like the one under consideration by the Board of Supervisors on Tuesday, the 9th of October.

George Rebane writing at Rumination’s has more details in  Agenda21 – Exhibit A on display locally

If your are at all concerned about loosing your freedom to some NGO like the Sierra Business Council, or one of the environmental wacko organizations that populate Nevada City, you better show up at the Board of Supervisors meeting and let your voices be heard.

We need more citizen in put on this issue before the Board of Supervisors signs away our access to the National Forests.

The new Forest Management Plan has a component called  “Restoration.”  Restoration will ban all access to the designated areas and armed Forest Rangers can arrest you and put you in jail if you enter an area marked for restoration.  No not the County jail, the Federal Jail.

Until the BOS sign away your freedom the County Sheriff would have some jurisdiction   We elect our Sheriff and have some influence. Under the MOA he could lose our voting leverage, our freedom of access would be relinquished to a non-elected bureaucrat who only answers to some unelected regional council.

That is how Agenda 21 works. Incremental dismemberment of our freedoms and allocating them to some some NGO controlled collective with a staff trained by ICLEI – Local Governments for Sustainability . If that is what you want stay from the Board of Supervisors on Tuesday and you will get your wish. 

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About Russ Steele
Freelance writer and climate change blogger. Russ spent twenty years in the Air Force as a navigator specializing in electronics warfare and digital systems. After his service he was employed for sixteen years as concept developer for TRW, an aerospace and automotive company, and then was CEO of a non-profit Internet provider for 18 months. Russ's articles have appeared in Comstock's Business, Capitol Journal, Trailer Life, Monitoring Times, and Idaho Magazine.

20 Responses to Agenda 21 Comes a Creeping (Update)

  1. I am really trying to figure out how this MOA or signing it would have anything to do with A21. Agreeing to talk to the USFS seems like a pretty far cry from “shifting through the ashes of what was once the Free west.”

    http://www.mynevadacounty.com/nc/bos/cob/docs/Board%20of%20Supervisors%20Agendas/2012%20BOS%20Meeting%20Agenda%20Documents/10-09-2012%20BOS%20Agenda.pdf

  2. Arthur M. Day. says:

    What a shocker! Mr. Frisch finds nothing wrong with a slice of baloney!

    • Russ says:

      Mr Frisch proves my point. The left does not see the danger of incremental regionalism that results in the loss of control by our elected officials. Right now our County deals with the Forest Service. Under the MOA the regional NGO deals with the Forest Service. Now not elected officials are making the decisions for the region. We have lost our ability to influence the outcome. That is how Agenda 21 works, putting our future in the hands of unelected bureaucrats.

      • I guess you did not read the background document either. The county designates someone to be the primary point of contact with the forest service, not to make decisions for the Board, unless of course you want all contact with the forest service to be an agenda item on the Board meetings…I mean really, I thought you guys wanted more efficiency in government.

  3. What a shocker…instead of reading the background documentation for himself and finding out it has nothing to do with A21, Arthur posts something that adds nothing to the discussion. I have an idea, how about you actually tell us precisely why you think it is a slice of baloney.

  4. Todd Juvinall says:

    I am trying to get the links to work for the agenda document so I cannot opine on that yet. What I can say though is once upon a time our county received millions of dollars from the natural resources extracted from our 250,000 acres of Federal lands and now we don’t. We get a couple of contracts from the feds to hire our sheriff and that is about it. I saw the incremental destruction of our local rights and ownerships through many little eco groups manipulating the legal system and the influx of like minded eco nuts in charge of our forests ( inholdings, cabin leases, grazing, timber, mining claims, dredging, riparian rights, wild and scenic and its designated corridors, etc., etc., and many more) . The “plans” now in place have further wrecked local input into the management and use of the lands within our borders (the Sierra Club etal floods the comments into the USFS on their eco plans to influence them). So, as long as people have a memory of the past and the actions taken by the fed and state officials and their respective bureaucrats, a person of any intelligence has to be suspicious of them. We once were a thriving economy and now we are a old folks home. The Frisch’s and his ilk have been the beneficiary of this.

    • Maybe, just maybe, that’s because we cut all the big timber? Less than 2% of Nevada County forests are old growth, and the second growth is mostly gone as well. Bottom line is one has to look far and wide for a tree greater than 60″ diameter at breast height in our forests today, so cutting Canadian boreal forest is just much more cost effective. I mean really, timber taxes and PILT were NEVER more than about 10% of county revenue. I am guessing we get lot more than that today from a combination of residents who pay property tax because they chose to live in a beautiful area, and the sales tax that comes from eco-nazis, green nuts, watermelons, greenies, tree-huggers, and granola eaters flocking to the woods to roll in the mud and spray patchouli on each other. Bottom line: hippies are the new loggers!

      • Todd Juvinall says:

        You really have no idea about what you are talking about Frisch. I would suggest you stay out of this issue.

      • Michael Anderson says:

        Hey Todd, do I get to talk about this issue? Pretty please?

      • Todd Juvinall says:

        Oh please, grow up MA.

      • Michael Anderson says:

        Thanks Todd, I’ll take that as a “yes.”

        My uncle was in the US Forest Service in Region 6 for his entire career, starting out at the bottom and working his way up to the Regional Forester’s office in Eugene. He finished his career as a district ranger for the Sweet Home Ranger District. We spent a lot of time in Oregon when I was growing up and he was my “go to guy” whenever I had a question about timber resource use, or topics like spotted owls for example. He was pretty much in the middle of the road when it came to balancing the loggers and the environmentalists.

        Given my knowledge of the subject, when you write, “I saw the incremental destruction of our local rights and ownerships through many little eco groups manipulating the legal system and the influx of like minded eco nuts in charge of our forests,” you are just blowing wind.

        Firs, pines, and cedars ain’t corn, Todd, and big trees make a healthy forest. And the forest must be healthy if it is to continue as a “land of many uses.”

  5. Arthur M. Day. says:

    Mr. Frisch: Your failure to deal with Russ’ graph showing the decoupling of C02 and Global Temp. makes you a questionable source about anything.

  6. Arthur M. Day. says:

    By the way, “Restoration” to what? I have a book with pairs of photographs of the Sierras, even Graniteville is in there. One of the pair was taken in the 19th Century. one was taken in the 20th. The 20th Century photographer made every effort to set up his camera in the same spot as the 19th. The old photographs show forests with little to no brush. The modern ones are often from a different spot because the original location is now in a dense clump of manzanita. Evidently, the Native Americans regularly burned off the brush to improve deer fodder and deer hunting. We can’t do that now because the density of the brush will set the trees alight. Perhaps California can ease it’s unemployment problem by hiring people to grub out the manzanita and ceanothous. HA!

    • Todd Juvinall says:

      What is so fascinating to me about the eco nuts and their timber rules (which are the law) is that they cut the baby trees (30″ or less) to leave the daddy and mommy trees (bigger than 30″) in some form of religious belief in something called “old growth” forests. And their definition of old growth is the trees born after the mining of the late 1900’s. Unbelievable eco mismanagement of millions of acres of America.

  7. God, you guys are just friggin stupid….stupid…stupid…….

    no wonder people like Russ and George can capture your minds…they are made of mush.

    • Todd Juvinall says:

      Sorry to say Frisch that you are the stupid one here. You may have learned to read but you have no comprehension. Simply a leftwing bloviator. You do supply us all a good guffaw once in a while though.

      You are a good storm trooper for your eco nut policies and now our country is wrecked by your pals. Keep on saluting them.

  8. Arthur M. Day. says:

    Not far enough, Mr. Juvinall.

  9. Russ says:

    See the update. BOS Withdraws the MOA, not in the best interest of the people of Nevada County!

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